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2003EDGE
04-29-2016, 01:03 PM
Ok, looking for a reputable shop or individual to get an estimate on completing a solid axle swap on my 4Runner. This is still going to be my daily so I just want to make sure it is done right.

Maybe I have seen too many of the fab failure posts on Facebook and it just has me worried lol

jimbo92
05-04-2016, 12:43 PM
Sell it and get an 80.

2003EDGE
05-04-2016, 12:57 PM
Would love to....problem is, all the 80's I have found have all had 300k plus on miles and they still want 12 grand lol

LBarr2002
05-04-2016, 01:34 PM
Didn't you just lift it? Are you not happy with it or did it break?

Honestly for what you would pay someone to do an SAS, you could leave it alone and buy an XJ...

2003EDGE
05-04-2016, 01:52 PM
Yeah, fresh lift. Already 2 torn cv axle boots and to be honest, the front rides great on road and OK on dirt roads. But as for trails, the rear axle is doing all the work. I really like the truck, just don't want to have to worry about lower ball joints failing consistently, cv axles breaking with moderate wheeling.

LBarr2002
05-04-2016, 01:54 PM
Sell the lift, take the money you would spend on the SAS and buy an XJ or a yota that someone has already swapped...

LBarr2002
05-04-2016, 02:11 PM
This is a 3rd Gen right?

Just some quick figuring:
-Allpro 3 link kit- $1,400
-Allpro steering kit -$800
-axle, plus upgrades $200-???
-driveshaft $300
-shop time 10 hours? @$75/hr

Minimum $3,500? You could save some money by using leaves, but performance and ride would suffer. You could save money by not buying a kit, but it will cost more in labor...

meaders
05-04-2016, 02:29 PM
Yeah, fresh lift. Already 2 torn cv axle boots and to be honest, the front rides great on road and OK on dirt roads. But as for trails, the rear axle is doing all the work. I really like the truck, just don't want to have to worry about lower ball joints failing consistently, cv axles breaking with moderate wheeling.

Don't remember from your previous thread but are you running a front diff drop? The cv boots on the cheapo cv axles from most part stores are crap it seems like these days.

Steve97tj
05-04-2016, 05:36 PM
How much did you lift the front of it?
Source manual hubs and axles from a 95.5-00 Tacoma, and drop the diff down.

You'll have a lot of money in a SAS if you get someone else to do it, i think a solid axle Toyota would be awesome, but i've never felt limited by the IFS considering i have to drive it everyday. That would quickly spiral downhill.

Steve97tj
05-05-2016, 08:58 AM
Wheelers offroad also sales boots that are supposedly really good. Always heard bad things about parts store boots.


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jimbo92
05-05-2016, 09:20 AM
I have bought some really nice 80s in the 5-7k range. You're looking in the wrong places.

jimbo92
05-05-2016, 09:21 AM
Solid axle swapping a runner is a waste of money. Once you take on the wheeling it will do you will start blowing differentials.

2003EDGE
05-05-2016, 09:36 AM
Don't remember from your previous thread but are you running a front diff drop? The cv boots on the cheapo cv axles from most part stores are crap it seems like these days.

Yeah, I picked up the diff drop and installed it at the same time that I did the front lift.

VOLT
05-05-2016, 09:36 AM
How come?

VOLT
05-05-2016, 09:37 AM
That was for Jimbo.

2003EDGE
05-05-2016, 09:38 AM
This is a 3rd Gen right?

Just some quick figuring:
-Allpro 3 link kit- $1,400
-Allpro steering kit -$800
-axle, plus upgrades $200-???
-driveshaft $300
-shop time 10 hours? @$75/hr

Minimum $3,500? You could save some money by using leaves, but performance and ride would suffer. You could save money by not buying a kit, but it will cost more in labor...

You forgot the coilovers in the quote lol! Yeah, I checked out AllPro and it seems to be the kit to get if you are going linked.

2003EDGE
05-05-2016, 09:43 AM
How much did you lift the front of it?
Source manual hubs and axles from a 95.5-00 Tacoma, and drop the diff down.

You'll have a lot of money in a SAS if you get someone else to do it, i think a solid axle Toyota would be awesome, but i've never felt limited by the IFS considering i have to drive it everyday. That would quickly spiral downhill.

The front got lifted approximately 3". My hub measurements showed it being 3 and a 1/16th on both sides. I did look at getting rid of the ADD front diff setup and putting the taco manual hub setup on it. I have been reading over all kinds of build threads on a few sites and have seen pictures in almost every one of them with cv axles blown to bits. Someone mentioned stronger cv axles and then it started blowing differentials lol!

I parked next to a SAS'd Tacoma in Inman and that really sold me on getting rid of the IFS. In fact...that is probably why the boots ripped lol, truck looked great and was definitely wheeled!

2003EDGE
05-05-2016, 09:47 AM
Solid axle swapping a runner is a waste of money. Once you take on the wheeling it will do you will start blowing differentials.

I have no plans to take this thing to KOH and try to go up Backdoor lol! I am planning to keep it in the 35" tire range. If I could keep it low enough, would keep it on 33's.

As for getting a dedicated trail rig...no go. I live in an apartment complex that doesn't offer garage spaces. Not to mention my wife is the assistant manager so I am sure that wouldn't fly lol

Steve97tj
05-05-2016, 09:53 AM
What size tire are you running?

Only way I see blowing it up bad is wailing on it in a bind. I've seen a lot of ppl run 35s and 37s on stock shafts without problems. Finesse saves parts, redline puts on a show.

Do it. It will be cool but it wont be cheap. Trail gear makes a kit that's a little more affordable.


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2003EDGE
05-05-2016, 10:18 AM
What size tire are you running?

Only way I see blowing it up bad is wailing on it in a bind. I've seen a lot of ppl run 35s and 37s on stock shafts without problems. Finesse saves parts, redline puts on a show.

Do it. It will be cool but it wont be cheap. Trail gear makes a kit that's a little more affordable.


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Yeah, I don't do redlines.
The TG kit is tempting as well. I was checking out their multiple kits. Still can't see how they would charge 5K for a kit and still need parts for the included axle lol

LBarr2002
05-05-2016, 10:42 AM
Not to mention my wife is the assistant manager so I am sure that wouldn't fly lol

Sounds like you could get special privilege to me... :)

2003EDGE
05-05-2016, 09:27 PM
Hah! More like I have to play by the rules more than anyone lol!

Welp, that price didn't go over so well. No about to put 10G into just the front end of this thing. So, back to the drawing board.

LBarr2002
05-05-2016, 09:30 PM
Saw your thread on NC4X4. Kinda funny that we all told you don't do it and they were throwing out names and numbers...

2003EDGE
05-05-2016, 10:00 PM
I am sure that I can find a shop to do it cheaper. But I started really tallying up all of the little items that you don't usually think of and it just came back not feasible.

A local that has done a few yotas walked me through alot of the little details. And as a few stated, not really feasible.

I guess I will set aside money for a while and keep my eyes open for an FZJ80 that isn't beat to hell and back lol!

jimbo92
05-06-2016, 10:09 AM
I couldn't hold my 4Runner together on 285s. Granted I'm fairly hard on stuff but my 80 took some wicked abuse and so do my jks. They just aren't packaged well to be a hardcore wheeler. Little ifs on mild tires moderate trails and camping they are great for. Anything bigger you're better off starting with another platform. An 80 is damn near bomb proof.

2003EDGE
05-06-2016, 10:18 AM
Was hoping for the best lol! Will just have to wait for the right 80 to come along. Will probably go for one that is already built to save some coin in the long run.

jimbo92
05-06-2016, 11:44 AM
Heres a ton of rig for 10:
http://forum.ih8mud.com/threads/1994-land-cruiser-in-nc-great-condition-air-locked.925399/