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LBarr2002
11-26-2014, 01:25 PM
Two questions:

1) If someone where looking for a midsize truck for DD use that could still tow occasionally (Samurai on an aluminum trailer perhaps... 5,000 lbs), what would you recommend? Colorado, Frontier, Tacoma? How do you think these vehicles would handle that load to Harlan or Windrock?

2) Anyone have experience towing with Suburban/Tahoe? How does a 5.3 Suburban do with that kind of load?

matth_85
11-26-2014, 01:35 PM
Two questions:

1) If someone where looking for a midsize truck for DD use that could still tow occasionally (Samurai on an aluminum trailer perhaps... 5,000 lbs), what would you recommend? Colorado, Frontier, Tacoma? How do you think these vehicles would handle that load to Harlan or Windrock?

2) Anyone have experience towing with Suburban/Tahoe? How does a 5.3 Suburban do with that kind of load?

I have the perfect cheap Tacoma for you to purchase. lol

You will NEVER tow **** with one of those little trucks. They are gutless when loaded down.

The Burb should do fine. It won't like the hills, but it will get it there.

jimbo92
11-26-2014, 01:44 PM
The only midsize truck with any balls is a 5.3 Rado or a frontier. The frontiers have a ton of power and the cheapest. They will give a late 90s early 00's halfton a run for their money pulling. However they will do it getting the same mileage, riding worse, and having less room.

LBarr2002
11-26-2014, 01:44 PM
I started looking for 5.3 Colorados, but only being 2009+ they're still too much $. I could get a Silverado cheaper.

Tripp's dad went from an early 2000s F150 to a Frontier and loves it. He tows a Mustang on a Featherlite occasionally.

jimbo92
11-26-2014, 01:45 PM
Just get you a 99-02 silverado and do work.

jimbo92
11-26-2014, 01:47 PM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UfHtcUZXljw

LBarr2002
11-26-2014, 04:58 PM
What years Frontier should I look at?

01tj
11-26-2014, 05:27 PM
Whats wrong with your Duramax?

LBarr2002
11-26-2014, 05:31 PM
Whats wrong with your Duramax?

Nothing, except it just sits... I've only put 36,000 miles on it in 5 years. I'm coming to the conclusion that I have too many vehicles and need to consolidate...

cannonball
11-26-2014, 05:40 PM
I would just buy a half ton and roll. The difference in gas mileage isn't enough to make a difference. I got 17.1 in my f150 driving to florida yesterday and that was in a **** ton of stop and go on the interstate.

Not to mention I think frontiers are hideous.

matth_85
11-26-2014, 05:42 PM
I agree with Mason.

matth_85
11-26-2014, 05:56 PM
My 04 X-Cab Z71 got 16-17 MPG avg. with 305's on it. It got closer to 18-19 stock. Those trucks pull pretty well. Just don't hold the weight that great.

cannonball
11-26-2014, 06:59 PM
I honestly had no complaints towing my jeep on Joe's trailer to golden mountain last weekend. 4 or 5 four mile long hills at 6 degree or higher incline. Yeah it drops a gear and may loose some speed but it really wasn't bad at all, averaging 9.5 mpg.

Also the samurai on a feather light would be significantly lighter and would do even better.

LBarr2002
11-26-2014, 07:29 PM
Dad's truck is an 04 with heavy tow package, 3.73 gear, heavy springs, and he got it cheap. If I found a deal like that I'd be temped.

Insurance is due on everything in February, so for now just tossing around ideas. But, insurance, taxes, and maintenance on 4 vehicles sucks, plus a couple more that aren't tagged.

DanStew
11-26-2014, 07:58 PM
We used to have a 99 Nissan pathfinder with an auto and V6. We towed the CJ on a trailer from South Florida to Tellico. Now this was a one and done thing but i was surprised about the Pathfinder doing it. I did put a brake controller on it and it worked nice. We missed spur 60 going up and took normal 60 and it was some crazy grades but it did it. Would i do it again? If i wasnt driving 10-12 hours and the grades were only a portion, i would do it once a year. Other than that i think the pathfinder would weat out pretty quickly. Only had one time where it went squirrely on us, but then again the wife was driving at the time and i woke up to the truck shaking bad, but she eased off the gas and we rode it out. Lets say i drove the rest of the way back to florida :)

VOLT
11-26-2014, 09:31 PM
That's awesome.

WeRideNTruX
11-26-2014, 09:43 PM
My frontier pulls fine as far as tracking goes but I have had about 5k behind it once w/ NO brake controller & the brakes & power were a little lacking not to mention unloaded w/ bumpers & heavy 33s I get about 16mpg, towing is about 13 if I try really hard, cruising at around 55 I can get 20-21 mpg out of it. I really like the truck & it does everything I want it to well enough but isn't outstanding at any 1 thing. Max towing is 6500 btw so if you get 1 a sami on an aluminum trailer should be well within that. I also like the looks as well or better than a Tacoma & frontiers are cheaper.

LBarr2002
11-26-2014, 09:54 PM
LS1 in Jeep, tow Sami with Jeep, problem solved...

DanStew
11-26-2014, 11:43 PM
Now that is thinking :)

Steve97tj
11-26-2014, 11:52 PM
Z71 1500 and be done with it. Anything else and you'll be searching for more. Room for 4+ with gear, pull your Sami or LJ around and still easily drive to work everyday. There's a reason why you see so many of them on the road.

jimbo92
11-27-2014, 01:12 AM
The 05 and up frontiers are the power ones. They get half ton mileage though. Sell the Beamer and get a cheaper car, sell the Sami and put the LJ on 35s and keep the dmax. Or just drive lj everywhere to trail.

jimbo92
11-27-2014, 01:12 AM
Or sell everything and get a jk. Wheeling with a warranty is Tities. I spit a u joint cap on mine today or Sunday. Goes friday for a new shaft under warranty.

wesharper
11-27-2014, 01:15 PM
Watching this thread.
I also have a 09 Dmax 4door that sits unless it is towing. I have a 2wd reg cab gas 2500 service truck and the 2500 diesel 4wd. The gas truck is super easy and efficient for daily driving and has excessive tool storage. The diesel truck tows good but sucks for daily driving due to size and weight. Plus everything is more expensive on the diesel. The gas truck does 40k miles per year. The diesel gets about 5k miles per year.
I'm trying to talk myself into getting rid of both trucks and buying a diesel 2wd extended cab service truck. My primary concern is the loss of 4wd. My secondary concern is losing the diesel power plant.
My reasons are basically the same. Upkeep and expenses on two trucks is too expensive. Only use 4wd on rare occasions. I only need the diesel when towing a couple thousand miles each year.

Has anyone else tried going from diesel to gas in a 2500 or up series truck? How did it work out?
Has anyone tried going from a 4wd daily driver to a 2wd daily driver? Especially in a construction type job. How did it work out?

What is the perfect DD / Tow Rig?

LBarr2002
11-27-2014, 01:42 PM
I will never tow with a 2wd. Rarely need it, but when you need it you need it... Harlan in the snow, Gulches when it rains, Durhamtown Tellico parking lot, 33 when you get your rig stuck and use the tow rig to recover...

LBarr2002
11-27-2014, 01:46 PM
The 05 and up frontiers are the power ones. They get half ton mileage though. Sell the Beamer and get a cheaper car, sell the Sami and put the LJ on 35s and keep the dmax. Or just drive lj everywhere to trail.

Been down that road before. The Sami is just too much fun, and I'll do things with it I wouldn't with the jeep on 35s.

wesharper
11-27-2014, 04:43 PM
I will never tow with a 2wd. Rarely need it, but when you need it you need it... Harlan in the snow, Gulches when it rains, Durhamtown Tellico parking lot, 33 when you get your rig stuck and use the tow rig to recover...

I agree and that is my main concern. Last weekend at Windrock 4wd was needed just to reach the cabin on the steep gravel drive.

I will be running a warn powerplant on the front. Not sure if this will overcome the need for 4wd. Plus its much easier to switch into 4 hi than pull cable.

Wes

LBarr2002
11-28-2014, 08:43 PM
Was doing maintenance on the Yukon xl today and noticed it has P tires. I guess I would need to look at replacing them with LT if I was going to tow with it much. Also, the hitch is a 5000 lb / 500 lb tongue weight unless used with a weight distributing hitch.

WeRideNTruX
11-29-2014, 06:15 PM
The 05 and up frontiers are the power ones. They get half ton mileage though. Sell the Beamer and get a cheaper car, sell the Sami and put the LJ on 35s and keep the dmax. Or just drive lj everywhere to trail.

Mines an 08 and it moves itself 100x better than the old supercharged 3.3 trucks but drop 5k behind it & it knows itll tow just fine but ull remember that u dont have diesel anymore. Or just 4bt the LJ

jimbo92
11-29-2014, 06:16 PM
4bt swaps suck

WeRideNTruX
11-29-2014, 06:18 PM
Says the guy w/ a 3.8 haha!

jimbo92
11-29-2014, 06:20 PM
Ha I hear ya